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Best Natures
#1
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Since I've run into this question quite  a few times myself, I thought I'd make a list for reference. These are no way, well some might be, the absolute required nature, but more of a guideline. This is a work in progress and any help/tips/suggestions are appreciated. Thank you. 

Please take abilities in consideration when deciding nature.

ANCIENTS

Albinus - Profound
Anglare - Hallucination
Arbogon
Arctle - Tank
Aturion - Trembling
Augurix
Aurorile - Hallucination/Tank
Chlorotops
Chromaul - Butcher/Reaper
Cielon
Cragantula
Decesile
Dracorpio
Drakosukus
Drausoleum - Tank
Egypri - Butcher/Reaper
Erdegon
Fendark
Gigerath - Hallucination
Gigoliath - Hallucination/Tank
Golemet - Butcher/Reaper/Profound
Goritaur - Profound
Grasilisk - Tank
Grythin
Hetephinx
Hyreigna
Ionoule
Jaghoul - Tank
Jolteta
Korrodo - Trembling/Butcher
Korrosvat
Mastice
Midandr
Odonasma
Orogond - Trembling
Prysma - Butcher/Reaper
Qillusion - Profound
Quinnlong - Tank
Raijunder
Sarcuda - Profound
Serperor
Stromeleon - Hallucination/Tank
Submakarb
Tempteras
Terrabbit
Ugoyle - Butcher/Reaper
Vesuverex - Tank
Vydral - Tank
Wargile - Hallucination
Xwartya - Butcher/Reaper
Yatagarasun

LEGENDARIES

Alaclipse 
Arxon
Chesshot
Chimeros
Dimagem
Divawn
Dragonoon
Duskami
Freezaco
Gargravel
Haloudelou
Hulkapow
Icebragled
Jawguile
Kelvice
Kuraigon
Lunardian
Mantice
Meteoid
Miroushon
Mythulu
Nightheos
Ookichia
Pegurush
Polnorso
Reptide
Rubtilia
Solord
Spiralaxy
Steeleon
Stellack
Tsunidle
Veptis
Volcaurus
Wolverazor
Zonench

ZENITHS

Absoliutus
Aister
Alieian
Alta
Aquayro
Arizox
Astrum
Auramus - Profound
Bavante
Behemoth
Betamma
Blazero
Blobelisk
Brachpour - Tank
Buffampede
Bunda
Caesidote
Cerebrain
Chillurk
Chromeleon
Coroneon
Dinothorn
Dracoflare
Draconight
Dractanium
Dragoscorch
Drakell
Eion
Engiron
Falcoflame
Felri
Furrage
Futairik
Gampha
Garubitic
Gilizar
Glamvas
Graero
Grawsora
Griffix
Gryvolt
Harpiros
Heatora
Helion
Herophoenix
Houndeath
Iitiyel
Invion
Jetegin
Jrava
Kaokung
Khanwhibon
Killipede
Kuraimi
Leonior
Lumenoth
Lunarikon
Magnilok
Mandroh
Mantyrant
Marocepter
Mestaccato
Monason
Moosnow
Moskarade
Moundible
Namagon
Nrakros
Obsighus
Plagubonic - Profound
Potasinite
Psyrox
Psywar
Pyrake
Quensea
Rabblade
Ragarock - Hallucination/Tank
Reven
Roivile
Salaritian
Serpensiris
Shellion
Socilec
Solarikon
Sounore
Sounvern
Spectrorb
Spidermon
Talight
Televitate
Trampolm
Ursaze
Visiood
Warong
Warrox
Wilitus
Xenomonster
Yetee - Profound
Zeknair

Special thanks to these contributors
PupK9
Qurac23
Alduin
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#2
Vydral --> Tank

Korrodo --> trembling or butcher
I'm baaaaaaaack
#3
ty and updated slightly
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#4
Ragarock ---> hallucination
#5
Albinus - Profound
Anglare - Hallucination
Arctle - Tank
Aturion - Trembling
Aurorile - Hallucination/Tank
Chromaul - Butcher/Reaper
Drausoleum - Tank
Gigerath - Hallucination
Gigoliath - Hallucination/Tank 
Golemet - Butcher/Reaper/Profound
Goritaur - Profound
Grasilisk - Tank
Jaghoul - Tank
Korrodo - Trembling or Butcher
Orogond - Trembling
Prysma - Butcher/Reaper
Qillusion - Profound
Quinnlong - Tank
Sarcuda - Profound
Stromeleon - Hallucination/Tank
Ugoyle - Butcher/Reaper
Vesuverex - Tank
Vydral - Tank
Wargile - Hallucination
#6
thanks, updated
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#7
(12-20-2013, 08:33 AM)Qurac23 Wrote: Ragarock ---> hallucination

Ragarock also does well as tank, just saying

Alaclipse I believe is trembling... Or hallucination.. Lemme check
I'm baaaaaaaack
#8
I had a ragarock that had hallucination and it was a beast
#9
They are EPIC when they're Hallu, don't get me wrong ^_^ BUT, they do VERY well also as Tanks ;)
I'm baaaaaaaack
#10
The abilities really depend on whether it should be Hallu or Tank.. Wouldn't want Slow tough/strong on a Sweeper.. lol
#11
updated rag to hallu/tank
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#13
This is very helpful...thank you!
#14
(12-19-2013, 05:30 PM)shoukosumeragi Wrote:
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Since I've run into this question quite  a few times myself, I thought I'd make a list for reference. These are no way, well some might be, the absolute required nature, but more of a guideline. This is a work in progress and any help/tips/suggestions are appreciated. Thank you. 

Please take abilities in consideration when deciding nature.

ANCIENTS

Albinus - Profound
Anglare - Hallucination
Arbogon
Arctle - Tank
Aturion - Trembling
Augurix
Aurorile - Hallucination/Tank
Chlorotops
Chromaul - Butcher/Reaper
Cielon
Cragantula
Decesile
Dracorpio
Drakosukus
Drausoleum - Tank
Egypri - Butcher/Reaper
Erdegon
Fendark
Gigerath - Hallucination
Gigoliath - Hallucination/Tank
Golemet - Butcher/Reaper/Profound
Goritaur - Profound
Grasilisk - Tank
Grythin
Hetephinx
Hyreigna
Ionoule
Jaghoul - Tank
Jolteta
Korrodo - Trembling/Butcher
Korrosvat
Mastice
Midandr
Odonasma
Orogond - Trembling
Prysma - Butcher/Reaper
Qillusion - Profound
Quinnlong - Tank
Raijunder
Sarcuda - Profound
Serperor
Stromeleon - Hallucination/Tank
Submakarb
Tempteras
Terrabbit
Ugoyle - Butcher/Reaper
Vesuverex - Tank
Vydral - Tank
Wargile - Hallucination
Xwartya - Butcher/Reaper
Yatagarasun

LEGENDARIES

Alaclipse 
Arxon
Chesshot
Chimeros
Dimagem
Divawn
Dragonoon
Duskami
Freezaco
Gargravel
Haloudelou
Hulkapow
Icebragled
Jawguile
Kelvice
Kuraigon
Lunardian
Mantice
Meteoid
Miroushon
Mythulu
Nightheos
Ookichia
Pegurush
Polnorso
Reptide
Rubtilia
Solord
Spiralaxy
Steeleon
Stellack
Tsunidle
Veptis
Volcaurus
Wolverazor
Zonench

ZENITHS

Absoliutus
Aister
Alieian
Alta
Aquayro
Arizox
Astrum
Auramus - Profound
Bavante
Behemoth
Betamma
Blazero
Blobelisk
Brachpour - Tank
Buffampede
Bunda
Caesidote
Cerebrain
Chillurk
Chromeleon
Coroneon
Dinothorn
Dracoflare
Draconight
Dractanium
Dragoscorch
Drakell
Eion
Engiron
Falcoflame
Felri
Furrage
Futairik
Gampha
Garubitic
Gilizar
Glamvas
Graero
Grawsora
Griffix
Gryvolt
Harpiros
Heatora
Helion
Herophoenix
Houndeath
Iitiyel
Invion
Jetegin
Jrava
Kaokung
Khanwhibon
Killipede
Kuraimi
Leonior
Lumenoth
Lunarikon
Magnilok
Mandroh
Mantyrant
Marocepter
Mestaccato
Monason
Moosnow
Moskarade
Moundible
Namagon
Nrakros
Obsighus
Plagubonic - Profound
Potasinite
Psyrox
Psywar
Pyrake
Quensea
Rabblade
Ragarock - Hallucination/Tank
Reven
Roivile
Salaritian
Serpensiris
Shellion
Socilec
Solarikon
Sounore
Sounvern
Spectrorb
Spidermon
Talight
Televitate
Trampolm
Ursaze
Visiood
Warong
Warrox
Wilitus
Xenomonster
Yetee - Profound
Zeknair

Special thanks to these contributors
PupK9
Qurac23
Alduin

This is a very helpful thread. Would love to see it completed/updated. And perhaps include Emissaries, as well? Anyway, thanks for what you've done.
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#15
Question: Just looking at the first Ancient, Albinus, I am wondering why Profound is best nature?

                HP / Att / Def / SpA / SpD / Spe
Albinus      161 / 97 / 191 / 115 / 199 / 204

Profound:   40 / -60 / 50 / -50 / 60 / -40

If Albinus's best stats are, in order, Speed, SpDefense, Defense, etc., wouldn't the best nature for this mon be one that increases those stats in that order, or as close as possible? Speed is the highest stat, and Profound decreases Speed, so...you see my confusion?

Looking at the Natures list, Bulwark and Quick seem like they would be better. They both increase Speed, and Special Defense, with Bulwark also increasing Defense. Here are those stats:

Bulwark: 0 / -40 / 30 / -40 / 30 / 20
Quick: -60 / 0 / 0 / -50 / 50 / 60
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#16
(07-30-2014, 01:45 PM)bohochickky Wrote: Question: Just looking at the first Ancient, Albinus, I am wondering why Profound is best nature?

                HP / Att / Def / SpA / SpD / Spe
Albinus      161 / 97 / 191 / 115 / 199 / 204

Profound:   40 / -60 / 50 / -50 / 60 / -40

If Albinus's best stats are, in order, Speed, SpDefense, Defense, etc., wouldn't the best nature for this mon be one that increases those stats in that order, or as close as possible? Speed is the highest stat, and Profound decreases Speed, so...you see my confusion?

Looking at the Natures list, Bulwark and Quick seem like they would be better. They both increase Speed, and Special Defense, with Bulwark also increasing Defense. Here are those stats:

Bulwark: 0 / -40 / 30 / -40 / 30 / 20
Quick: -60 / 0 / 0 / -50 / 50 / 60

You shoud have in your mind that the types are: sweeper, tank and wall

Wall: Def and sp def are the important stats.
Tanks: Def, sp def and sp attack or attack are the important stats
Sweepers: Speed, Hp and sp attack or attack are the important stats.

I told you that you also need to look at the movepool(the moves that albinus can learn)

The nature profound takes the def and sp def that are really high. That means a wall. A sweeper takes speed, but also need 1 of the attack or sp attack stats. That means it isn't a good sweeper. Tank type thats fine also, donno the movepool for that.

So tank or wall, because players looked at the movepool and saw that albinus have more good attacks for a wall, means that albinus is better for a wall nature.

and just tell me, what should a monster with speed and spdef do in a pvp battle? fast defending? Bulwark is a fine nature for a wall also, not the best.
#17
Fast defending... Big Grin Hilarious! But excellent point, too.

Right, I remember about the move pool - just hadn't gotten myself past the nature & stats part yet. I wanted to make sure I had a fuller understanding of why Profound was better than Bulwark or Quick. Now I do, thanks.

So, when searching for your "dream team", you want all your mons to fit into one of the categories of wall, tank, or sweeper? So far, I've only been battling within the game. I haven't battled PVP yet. I've been asked a couple times, but their monsters were wayyy better than mine and I'd like to think I at least have a little chance of winning before I agree to battle, you know?

About the movepools, you'd want a lot of status moves and moves that lower enemy stats for walls, damaging moves for sweepers, and a combination for tanks - is that right?
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#18
(07-31-2014, 01:03 AM)bohochickky Wrote: Fast defending... Big Grin Hilarious! But excellent point, too.

Right, I remember about the move pool - just hadn't gotten myself past the nature & stats part yet. I wanted to make sure I had a fuller understanding of why Profound was better than Bulwark or Quick. Now I do, thanks.

So, when searching for your "dream team", you want all your mons to fit into one of the categories of wall, tank, or sweeper? So far, I've only been battling within the game. I haven't battled PVP yet. I've been asked a couple times, but their monsters were wayyy better than mine and I'd like to think I at least have a little chance of winning before I agree to battle, you know?

About the movepools, you'd want a lot of status moves and moves that lower enemy stats for walls, damaging moves for sweepers, and a combination for tanks - is that right?

Walls have status moves orr like this: http://www.monstermmorpg.com/SeeUserMons...ID=1174358 look at iron ember.

Sweepers have high attacking moves and are fast. The most important move every sweeper need is a prior move: http://www.monstermmorpg.com/SeeUserMons...ID=2237615 , look at shadow crash(prior) als at the plasma shot(same as iron ember but far more damage)

Tanks are using both, i don't have a good example for that. Tanks are most used for battle walls, so the plasma shot is also good for a tank(because the high def doesn't really matter) als moves as glow, and stall moves are used for tanks.
#19
You've been most helpful, as always, Freak. Thank you kindly!
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#20
Thats no problem at all boho, just askSmile
#21
nice idea Idea and nice thread Smile

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